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Quote from: rune on June 05, 2011, 02:04:10 am

i am just wondering how else could i have obtained a vesta spear?

Duping? no seeing duping requires the original item for it to be multiplied

Spawning? No i am not an admin+ nor can you hack that

So there really is no other explanation other than i got it from vesta

Why is this even being argued?

In all honesty, it's only being argued because you decided to bring it up.

As for spawning, any player on the old source could spawn if they edited some of the files contained in their client. Some of them even had the ability to change stats and give ::master.

how the hell did i bring it up?
I said i was angered by the reset and losing items *lists tons of items and among them vesta spear* then strength decided to be all high and mighty and tell me it was not legit.

Quote from: rune on May 28, 2011, 01:33:22 am

Staff always believes what they are doing is in good faith but they never look at the impact of what they did.

What frustrates me is that i rarely come onto the server but when i did play non-stop i spent hours and hours of my time obtaining full vesta, statius, morgians, dragon full helm, dfs, the first vesta spear, and the money to buy a chaotic weapon. I spent a huge portion of my time into this server and what do i have to show for it? NOTHING. I feel that the reseting any server should be the very very very last measures you take.

Also seed, some anti-duping measures would be first off trying to fix the original issue. Bank checks on all online players (not time consuming at all for a small sever like this one) and increasing staff size for a limited amount of time so basically temp mods.

Only legit vesta spear in game was owned by my brother, and it was given to him by ags. You cant obtain it from a drop and dont argue that you can.

i don't need to argue, i got one as a drop, and if you really want, ask ags for the drop list of vesta. But not just some stupid list of items ask him for the code for vesta. I won't ask him for it seeing I and another both got it as a drop. Oh and don't bother argue that i didn't get it legit because u can't

why did you go as far as to reset the server instead of attacking suspicious players and furiously attack the duping glitch?

Why not a bank check command?

In my own opinion i see a full reset as the last resort but to my knowledge there could have beens some resurrection.

If i may speak for the portion of the community, i don't think we are getting enough information on the current standing of the server or in that case past standings of the server. Could you please describe the current stability of the server and if you believe in your own opinion that the reset was necessary instead of other anti-duping measures.

I know you probably do not want this kind of talk coming from me but i am simply trying to enlighten the situation and in no way trying to enrage you. I believe more detail to the overall situation would be wonderful for the entire community to see.

It has been a long time haven't it. I see that the vesta spear has still not been fixed it i would highly appreciate if you fixed it.

It says that i am unarmed when wielding it, and gives 0 bonuses and has no spec bar.

"Lmfao, have you never played Rs, like ever? Why the hell do you think there is no safespots at kbd? Or gwd? "

Because jagex coded it that way. DERP

Range original intentions was to allow players to fight eachother without being next to each other. This was latter expanded to what you find abusive, safespots.

Why are safespots in some areas and not in others?
Well in RS they are all hand picked and coded as safespots and Jagex understands they are doing it
In a RSPS the coder is usualy clueless on what he is doing and when a monster all of a sudden becomes safespot-able it happens due to a few reasons. One the monster was never intentionally meant to be there. Example vesta, statius, morrigin, and zueril were never meant to be in that hell hole you put them in allowing glitches to be made with them.

A perfect server would simply be a direct copy of what rs is yet sadly most bases such as delta are filed with bugs and glitches which owners usually pass over.

Now to simply get back on topic. I find it disturbing we are arguing over ideas, i put forth, on my own time, with my own effort, and most of the ones i make, you feel a need, almost a desire to argue on why then should not be added to the server. Who cares what you think. Yes, your an administrator and yes you are a staff member but you are a tiny spec on the face of the community. Think about it. There are what 10-15 players on average and there is 1 little seed who disagrees with all of these suggestions. Well my friend, 1/15 is not that good of a ratio. As of now you have been the only person giving me feed back due to the lack of activity on this forum site. As for now, traffic for this specific website is low, you are the only feedback i can seem to get, yet when you continually post you change the opinions of others without the respond of the original poster.

As you know, hopefully you do, you are an administrator. Know we could get into the most pointless argument and if 100 people saw it the majority would side with you even without knowing the context. Well, why is that? You are more powerful then me. You have the control and i don't. If you can understand how that a tiny little gold crown can make 100 players kiss your ass for a life time, it really helps how you deal with other players.

Example: "No bus seriously rune seed is correct"

Correct about what? That safe spotting is an abuse? That all my suggestions are invalid? That farcasting is the same as range safespoting? Hmmm jumping into the middle of an argument with some picture and a 7 word sentence doesn't help the scenario much now does it?

Quick questions:

How is farCASTING the same as range safespoting when farcasting is casting spells from afar?

Next

How is somthing that was programmed into the game (range) which gave the ability to fight with distance between the enemy so they couldnt attack abusive or how does it ruin the game? It was programmed in the way it was so players could safespot.

Honestly why tell players not to barrage NPC's or why tell players not to range safespot when they were programmed into the game for a reason. If Jagex didnt want safespots they would simply remove them, but guess what, they havent due to the fact safespots are intentional.

If you wanted safespots removed and farcasting removed simply remove the effect of barrages (the ice effect) and fix safespots by giving all npcs the power to walk and move through walls and other objects similar to noclip.

The first time i saw "dont farcast these npcs" i was like "hmmm fc'ing this npc good idea, i would have never thought of that. thanks auto server message for telling me how to make money, and do it without getting hurt."

Also how are you going to catch these players "abusing" this "glitch" (the "" were necessary to show that they are not abusers and it is not a glitch)
Are you going to waltz in and find someone, more likely you will never find out.

To my view you made a rule over something that was added for intentional reasonings. Which is somewhat unfair.

Compare it to a different video game. Call of Duty. What if Activision started banning players because they ran to much or they jumped over a wall?

What if jagex started to ban people who safespot? (they dont because they have common sense)

earn it back and play some more

Just don't quit :p

i love this suggestion
I love how it deals with camping
It would allow camping at skills but the time it takes to run to the bank or type empty would be the same as ::bank and ::bank would be 100000x more useful

Allow mod+ to have the full bank command and allow total level 2000+ players use ::bank restricted (restricted meaning you can only add items not take out)

Make it so the command is worthless in pking and does nothing